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‘This might be among the greatest scandals in Australian history’ – Senator Alex Antic finally receives response to Senate’s Estimates question raised three months ago.

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Yesterday Senator Alex Antic took to Facebook to break the news he had finally received an answer to a question he’d posed during the Senates Estimates Committee meeting on 6 April 2022.

Three months ago, Senator Antic asked the Australian Government Department of Health’s Commonwealth Chief Medical Officer, Professor Paul Kelly, to provide answers ‘regarding the effect that the mRNA injections have on reducing transmission of the virus,’ in particular, relative to ‘Travel restrictions around the Biosecurity Act.’

As per the transcript contained in a link included in Senator Antic’s Facebook post, the question and responses unfolded as follows:

Question:

Senator ANTIC: “As it stands right now, I understand that, if you’re an Australian citizen or a permanent resident, you can’t leave Australia unless you’re fully vaccinated and yet foreign citizens are able to leave at any time. What is the rationale behind this? What is the science behind this? Is this not more the sort of thing that we’d see in communist North Korea— stopping citizens leaving our country?”

Senator ANTIC: “Just on that, what is the science behind that decision, given that we know—I think we would all accept this—that transmission is irrelevant? When vaccinated you are effectively as infectious as you were if you were not vaccinated.”

Prof. Kelly: “That’s not a true statement.”

Senator ANTIC: “That is a true statement. That’s agreed to by almost all experts.”

Prof. Kelly: “It’s not a true statement.”

Senator ANTIC: “What degree of benefit are you given by vaccination, in terms of dampening down your transmission, for want of a better way of putting it?”

Prof. Kelly: “There is evidence about that and I can provide it on notice.”

Senator ANTIC: “But how much? Is it one per cent, is it two per cent?”

Prof. Kelly: I’ll provide that on notice.

Senator ANTIC: “No; you can tell me right now.”

CHAIR: “Senator Antic, the witness has agreed to provide it on notice.”

Senator ANTIC: How can we not know the answer to that right now?”

CHAIR: “Please do not harass the witnesses.”

Senator ANTIC: “Australian citizens are being stopped from going overseas for this. It should be a fairly simple question.”

Prof. Kelly: “I’ll provide that information on notice.”

When asked by Senator Antic what appeared to be a seemingly straightforward question during the Senate’s estimate meeting, Commonwealth Chief Medical Officer Professor Paul Kelly seemed either unable or unwilling to provide an on-the-spot answer. Instead, the department took the question ‘on notice’, deferring its response to a later unconfirmed date.

On 30 June 2022, 84 days after being advised by the Australian Government Department of Health that they would provide him with evidence that COVID injections reduced the effects of transmission of the virus, Senator Antic posted to Facebook that he was ‘still waiting’ for a response.

Yesterday, however, Senator Antic advised he’d finally received an answer to his questions taken ‘on notice,’ and posted the development on Facebook.

Antic’s post headed ‘Breaking! Mandate madness Exposed’ supplied evidence of a response conceding that “the effect injections have on transmission is ‘modest.’”

Included within the posted transcript was the Department of Health’s tardy response:

Answer:

“Unvaccinated Australian citizens and permanent residents have been restricted from leaving Australia without a valid exemption since it was possible to be vaccinated against COVID-19 until the human biosecurity emergency period under the Biosecurity Act 2015 lapsed on 17 April 2022.

The original intent behind restrictions on unvaccinated travellers leaving Australia (the overseas travel ban) was to moderate the volume of unvaccinated Australians traveling overseas and then seeking to return home, reducing the pressure on our quarantine capacity and health systems, as well as the risks to those individuals travelling to a country with high COVID-19 prevalence.

Based on the advice at the time from the Commonwealth Chief Medical Officer, Professor Paul Kelly, unvaccinated travellers have, and continue to, pose a risk to the community (whether in Australia or overseas) and the local hospital system as they are at higher risk of serious illness or death associated with COVID-19 and are more likely to transmit the infection to others.

Unvaccinated travellers who become unwell overseas and require further support and care on their return to Australia may continue to be a burden on Australia’s health care system.

Data from the United Kingdom and Finland demonstrates that vaccines are effective in preventing onward transmission of COVID-19, however this effect is modest.

Further information on the impact of the COVID-19 vaccination can be found in recent statements released by the Australian Technical Advisory Group on Immunisation. This is available at: www.health.gov.au/committees-and-groups/australian-technical-advisory-group-on-immunisation-atagi#statements.”

Senator Antic’s examination of the department’s response was rightly scathing, saying, ‘This might be among the greatest scandals in Australian history.’ Antic posted:

“They now concede that the effect injections have on transmission is “modest”.

“(Remember that the rationale for mandating is to “protect others”). This might be among the greatest scandals in Australian history.”

“Australians have been completely hoodwinked by these family and career-destroying mandates.”

“Health bureaucrats and company CEOs across the country must explain their actions.”

“The discrimination must end.”

A copy of the transcript can be found here-

https://www.aph.gov.au/api/qon/downloadattachment?attachmentId=df3df861-b594-495c-8126-0e6bd07b9a17
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  1. Modest is not a measurement. What is the actual figure? This is just MORE obfuscation of the facts from this “bought and paid for” mob of criminals.

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